Seeking Solicitation from God - men
Waleed: Ah! Who are these pagans, atheists & polytheists who call themselves as Muslims! Damn them......
Mohammed: Whom do you mean?
Waleed: All these Shia’as!
Mohammed: Do not swear like this and do not castigate them as heathens, they are Muslims.
Waleed: They are more worthy of being killed than Kaafirs.
Mohammed: What sort of blasting is this? And why do you say they are Polytheists?
Waleed: They take gods beside ALLAH and deify other gods which can neither do them good nor can harm them in anyway.
Mohammed: How is it so?
Waleed: They seek help from Prophets, Imams, and God - men to help them in their problems and afflictions and say: O! Mohammed, O! Ali, O! Hussain, O! Imam - e - Zamaan......!
Imagining that these personalities are capable of fulfilling their wishes! And is this not clear Kufr, Paganism and Atheism? Mohammed: Allow me to quote you a short Hadith.
Waleed: Go ahead.
Mohammed: I was among those who forever cursed, swore &
damned with worst words all Shia’as and never would I sit down or get up but that I cursed them and opposed them in every way until I had a chance of going for Hajj where I met a Shia’a when I blasted him with full vengeance all that was boiling in my chest for all these years...... words which were surging in anger for them words which came out on my tongue with full force; but this man (Shia’a) was patient, quiet and smiling gently with his countenance beaming with a radiance of peace and tranquillity! The more I swore upon him, the more he cooled my temper with his pervading smile which never left his lips; and this noble person put off the fire of hatred & enmity in my heart. And when I stopped, he addressed me saying: Brother Mohammed in the name of ALLAH will you please allow me to talk a few words to you?
He then said and I replied he then said and I told him till finally I realised that truth is with them on many subjects and topics which were controversial between them and us, and seeking / soliciting help from God - men was one of these topics I realised they were on the right.
Waleed: And has their treachery, trickery & dribble affected you? How short - sighted you are and how estranged is your knowledge of Islam!
Mohammed: I am certainly in a position to discuss with you this Solicitation from God - men under the light of Holy Quran, the Pristine Traditions of the Prophet (PBUH & HP) and lives of holy men from Muslims.
Waleed: ALLAH is certainly more benevolent than all HIS creations and HE is not unaware of them, and his creation can certainly be in touch with HIM ------- without any via media ------- anytime, anywhere; and they can reach HIM and seek HIS help & protection. It is not permissible to seek anyone other than HIM however exalted & elevated his status might be in HIS eyes, even if he happens to be a Prophet or Imam or Angel or any noble person.
Mohammed: And why is it not permitted?
Waleed: Because when a man dies, he perishes & is no more and what has perished cannot be beneficial, so how do you entreat anything which is no more & has just turned into nothing?
Mohammed: How do you say Death is “end of all” and who says so?
Waleed: Imam Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahabsaid .......
Soliciting and seeking help from noble souls who have died & hence are nothing is intellectually wrong & foolish. And he believed that the Staff of the Prophet( P.B.U.H
. & H.P. ) is more useful than him because he used to while alive but when he died he became “ nothing ” and became like an immovable, inanimate thing of no use but his Staff is still useful for people as it can guide them; hence it is of use for religion.
So this and other such statements stress upon the folly of entreating the Dead even if they are Prophets or Apostles of ALLAH.
Mohammed: The matter is just the opposite; for, when a man dies, he perceives Worlds which were hidden from his eyes while he was alive. ALLAH All Mighty says in the following Verse from the Holy Qur’an:
...... Now have WE removed from thee thy veil, so thy sight today issharp.
And say not of those who are slain in the path of ALLAH that they are dead; Nay, (they are) living but ye perceive not.
Reckon not those who are slain in the way of ALLAH, to be dead;Nay
! Alive they are with their Lord being sustained.
And in Bukhari it is stated: The Holy Prophet (PBUH & HP) came to a dug - out hole in Badr
and addressing the dead said: I have found the promise of my LORD true, did you also find promise of your Lord true? He was asked: You are talking to the dead? He answered...... You cannot hear better than them but they cannot reply.
Hence a man when he dies whether a Muslim or a Kaafir does not turn into immovable matter not feeling or not understanding. And Ghazali
------ one of Imams of Shafa’ei Sect ------ has said:
Some think that Death is End ------ and this is the opinion of Atheists ------
.
Waleed: Has Imam Ghazali taken Death as End to be an atheistic thought? Where is this mentioned?
Mohammed: In his book Ahyaa’ul Uloom
refer to it & you shall find what I have told
you.
Waleed: This is strange, coming from Ghazali.
Mohammed: This is not strange from Ghazali, but it is strange that you did not study this. Did you not hear what the Holy Prophet (PBUH & HP) told the dead Pagans of Mecca: “If they had met their End, they would not have heard & would not have understood what I told them”, when he told the Muslims: “You do not hearbetter
than them”
, meaning they hear as you hear and understand as you understand. Are you satisfied with this?
Waleed: Yes, I amsatisfied .....
However, I am surprised how all these long years I never gave a thought to these Verses, which are so clear in this regard? Moreover, how did I not hear Hadith of the Holy Prophet (PBUH & HP) and the saying of our Imam (Ghazali)?
Mohammed: Now you have accepted half the assertion of the Shia’a that: Man does not become “Null”, a Non - entity by death! Or do you still doubt?
Waleed:No .....
I do not have any doubt lingering but I have another surprise!
Mohammed: What is it?
Waleed: Thatis ......
How did Abdul Wahab believe that Death makes man Non - existent when Ghazali says that such a belief is of Atheists and above all, the clear declaration of the Holy Prophet (PBUH & HP) that a dead person hears equally well as a live person? And then how dare Abdul Wahab with such audacity,accentuate .......
My Staff is better than Mohammed, as it gives benefits to me and Mohammed does not?!
This is what surprises me.
Mohammed: Do not be surprised. It is imperative upon us to know people through religion; for every person whose words & actions are as per Qur’an, Sunnah (Traditions of Prophet) and life - history of noble personalities gone-by is a Mo’min; no, we should know religion through people who practise it. For if we know that so & so son of so & so is a sincere Mo’min, it is not right for us to take his words & actions from Islam, even if we know it’s open opposition to the Book of ALLAH and Hadith of Prophet, and life - history of noble personalities and it is nothing but heathenistic & atheistic, instead it is obligatory upon us that we see any perversion in a person, we should keep away from him whoever he be in position or status and should instead follow the TRUTH unfolded to us.
Waleed:True .....
I was a staunch believer of this person all this while and now you have stopped me from committing this grave mistake who considers atheism in religion, who took away my faith; I will never take him as a scholar & shall not take any rule of Islam from him.
Mohammed: Leave this talk of son of so & so; let us focus on the remaining topic.
Waleed:Yes .....
true
that dead - body does not “end” with Death but how do we justify entreating it if it is Prophet or Imam or a God - man? Know that there are people who consider such solicitation from a dead person as paganism and it (such solicitation) is castigated from the faith!
Mohammed: Is it permissible to ask for help from a live person, or request a favour from him or some such thing, and say: O’ Baqir or O’ Ja’afar or O’ Rida .z.... Please give me a Dinar or pray for ALLAH’s pardon or hold my hand and take me to the mosque, or some similar request?
Waleed: Yes it is permitted.
Mohammed: Then, now when it is proved that dead hear like the alive, what is there to prevent from one from asking it after its death, and ask for a favour from it?
Waleed: After thinking for awhile .....
lifts
up his heads saying: Yes, as you say Mohammedit
is right.
Mohammed: We have another proof in favour of entreating the Holy Prophet (PBUH & HP) and with pious persons who have died.
Waleed: What is it?
Mohammed: Companions
during the Holy Prophet’s (PBUH & HP) lifetime & after his demise always contacted him and neither he nor any of his Companions ever stopped them from doing so; had it been otherwise, they all would have stopped them.
Waleed: And who entreated the Holy Prophet (PBUH & HP) after his death?
Mohammed: Here are some examples......
Narrates Baihaqi
and Ibn Abi Shaiba from authentic sources ---- as also Ahmed Ibn Zaini Dahlan ---- People were troubled from a famine during the caliphate of Omar; so Bilal Ibn Harth came to the grave of the Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H.& H.P. ) and pleaded him: O’ Prophet of ALLAH, give water to your Nation, they are dying.
If this pleading and entreating of Bilal ------ who had taken all the tenets of Islam from the very lips of the Holy Prophet (PBUH & HP) directly & who stayed with him for not a small period ------ to the Holy Prophet (PBUH & HP) had been polytheism, then he would never have gone to his grave and the Companions also never would have allowed him to do so. Clearly, this is the strongest proof pertaining to the permissibility of ‘entreating the Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H. & H.P.)’.
Baihaqi narrates
from Omar Ibn Khattab who said: The Holy Prophet (PBUH & HP) told: When Adam (AHS) committed an error, he pleaded ALLAH that HEpardon
him in the name of Mohammed....... till the end of this Hadith; so if such an entreaty was prohibited, why did then Adam (AHS) plead!
It is narrated that when Mansur Dawaniqi performed Hajj, visited the grave of the Holy Prophet (PBUH & HP) in Medina and asked Imam Malik
(Imam of Maliki Sect): O’ father of Abdullah, should I face Qibla & pray or should I turn toward Prophet of ALLAH? So Malik told him: Do not turn your face away from him for he is your intercessor and that of your father Adam unto ALLAH, do turn toward him & ask his entreaty from ALLAH for sure HE will grant your wish in his name. ALLAH has said:
And if they commit a mistake, they repented & ALLAH and HIS Prophet pardoned them; they verily find ALLAH Pardoner & Compassionate.
And Malik’s statement: ‘He is your intercessor and that of your father Adam unto ALLAH’ is a clear proof that requesting for intercession is permitted and is praiseworthy even.
And Darimi
in his Saheeh
narrated from Abi Jauza who said: People in Medina had a severe drought so they came to Ayesha & complained her, so she said: ‘Look to the grave of the Prophet and make it a door to the Sky for yourself and then pray for rain’. They did as she told them and it rained heavily so much that the whole city turned green & fresh.
And there are hundreds of such examples in books; so if requesting intercession from the Prophet (PBUH & HP) is permissible and acceptable in Islam, then similar entreaty to Imams, Angels and God - men is also equally permitted. If such pleading had been illegal in the religion, then it would be prohibitive to entreat even the Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H. & H.P.). And if it is permitted to ask for intercession from him then it should be permissible for all pious men & God - fearing persons too.
Waleed: Strange that these sayings you have quoted me, I never saw even one of them.
Mohammed: If you are to turn to books on Hadith, you will see hundreds of such instances of seeking solicitations from the Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H. & H.P.), God - men and pious persons; and the narrations I quoted are but a drop in the Ocean
, and it appears that your reading of Hadith & Life of Pious men of Religion is very limited.
Waleed: Too much of work & busy life with many trying situations prevent me from having access to reading all such books in spite of my eagerness to read them.
Mohammed: If your study of books on Hadith is so limited, what right do you have to blame Shia’as ----- and for that matter all the Muslims ----- and castigate them as polytheists all based on one Mohammed Abdul Wahab and when you are totally ignorant of Hadith & other facts concerning them? This is not correct, I tell you openly ……. if you permit me.
Waleed: ----- with a sheepish laughter and embarrassed face ----- Tell me Mohammed whatever you have in your heart, for we are friends and you have truly enlightened me with all these Hadith and I have profited from you.
Mohammed: Your example is totally like the pagans of Qureish who prostrated down in front of their idols saying:
Verily we found our forefathers (so doing) and certainly we follow their example.
Will not ALLAH humiliate them? For they saw the TRUTH but did not listen to it to know if it was right or not and instead, went astray by worshipping the idols. And you Waleed, do not follow your forefathers blindly, but be enlightened and search for truth and lead your life accordingly; and if you searched books on Hadith, you will find that what that specific group tells about there being no basis for solicitation with God - men & HIS friends is paganism, all groups & sects of Islam will act against it, do you accept?
Waleed: Yes.....for I see truth is with Shia’as and all other Muslims in this regard, but what do I do in regard to calling names to Shia’as?
Mohammed: May ALLAH protect us, search for truth always & every time you hear beliefs of Shia’as, think it over till you get the truth and give up bigotry, for the Holy Prophet (PBUH & HP) has said: Every religious bigot will be in Hell .
Waleed: I shall do this and thank you very much.